The Neptune
in Australian Service

L-426-42-11 Neptune
P2V-5/P-2E



MSN RAAF PREV BU NO DEL RAAF
NAME
.
426-5022 A89-301 A89-592 133641
21NOV51
-
426-5021 A89-302 A89-595 133640
21NOV51
-
426-5093 A89-303 A89-294 133646
06OCT52
-
426-5092 A89-304 A89-545 133645
06OCT52
The Carpetbaggers
426-5086 A89-305 A89-983 133642
24DEC52
-
426-5094 A89-306 A89-228 133647
03DEC52
A Hard Day's Night
426-5088 A89-307 A89-589 133644
30JAN53
Thunderball
426-5087 A89-308 A89-736 133643
03DEC52
-
426-5110 A89-309 A89-694 133648
06FEB53
Pussy Galore
426-5111 A89-310 A89-236 133649
24DEC52
-
426-5112 A89-311 A89-225 133650
30JAN53
La Dolce Vita
426-5122 A89-312 A89-405 133651
30JAN53
The Longest Day


Notes P2V-5

  • The first two aircraft (A89-301 & 302) were commenced as P2V-4 but were brought up close to P2V-5 standard on the production line. Nevertheless, there were differences between these two aircraft and the following ten, principally in their electrical systems.
  • Initially, RAAF serials were "scrambled" for security reasons. These serials are shown in the second column headed PREV.
  • Mark 1 - Initially all P2V-5 were designated as Mark 1.
  • Mark 2 - With the removal of the nose and tail turrets and the addition of a clear nose and a MAD boom, the aircraft were redesignated as Mark 2.
  • Mark 3 - With the removal of the dorsal turret they were redesignated as Mark 3.
  • Mark 4 - With the addition of Westinghouse J-34 jet pods they were redesignated P2V-5F Mark 4.
  • In 1962 the P2V-5 designation was changed to P-2E in line with USN designations.
  • All P2V-5/P-2E served with No 11 Squadron RAAF, initially at Pearce, WA but by 31MAY54 the squadron had completed its move to Richmond, NSW.

The Jet Pod Mod

During 1959, the remaining eleven P2V-5s (A89-308 had crashed) were flown back to Lockheed at Ontario, California for the fitment of Westinghouse J-34 jet engines in pods under the wings. Thus modified, the aircraft were known as P2V-5F (also Mark 4). The Status Cards do not accurately record the return dates but the modification appears to have averaged three months for each aircraft.


BATCH
AIRCRAFT
DEPARTED
1
A89-302
25JUN59
A89-310
25JUN59
A89-312
25JUN59
2
A89-304
24JUL59
A89-306
24JUL59
A89-307
24JUL59
3
A89-303
24AUG59
A89-305
24AUG59
A89-309
24AUG59
4
A89-311
25SEP59
A89-301
25SEP59

 

Other P2V-5 Mods

During 1960 and again in 1961, all eleven remaining P2V-5s were cycled through the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC) factory at Avalon, Victoria for the incorporation of Mods 208 and 201. The exact nature of these mods is unknown. However, it is understood that Mod 208 may relate to the installation of a fire extinguishing system, the need for which was demonstrated by the loss of A89-308 on 4th February 1959. The following table lists the relevant aircraft movements. These dates generally refer to movements at CAC although some refer to movements at 11SQN. Given the relative proximity of Richmond and Avalon, these dates are often the same anyway. The dates in the following table were extracted from the RAAF status cards. It should be noted that the first modification recorded on these cards is the Mk 4 conversion (the jet pod mod) for which the aircraft returned to Lockheed in the U.S. There is no record of the Mk 2 conversion (removal of nose and tail gun positions) or the Mk 3 conversion (removal of the dorsal gun position). It would appear that, despite the previous loss of A89-308 to an engine fire, the remaining 11 P2V-5s were flown to the U.S. and back before fire extinguishing systems were fitted in Australia (Mod 208?). This surprising sequence of events has been confirmed by someone who was with the squadron at the time.

 

P2V-5
START
FINISH
START
FINISH
SERIAL
MOD208
MOD201
A89-301
18MAR60
01APR60
05MAY61
02JUN61
A89-302
17JUN60
22JUL60
31MAR61
05MAY61
A89-303
31MAY60
08JUN60
31AUG60
04NOV60
A89-304
18JAN60
04MAR60
31MAR61
29JUN61
A89-305
09MAY60
07JUN60
21APR61
12MAY61
A89-306
11APR60
21APR60
07JUL61
04AUG61
A89-307
14APR60
17MAY60
19MAY61
16JUN61
A89-308
CRASHED
A89-309
05MAR60
11APR60
28JUL61
18AUG61
A89-310
13AUG60
05SEP60
17MAR61
14APR61
A89-311
15FEB60
18MAR60
16JUN61
07JUL61
A89-312
08JUL60
09AUG60
29JUN61
28JUL61


L-726-45-17 Neptune
P2V-7/SP-2H



MSN RAAF BU NO DEL RAAF
.
726-7270 A89-270 149070 29MAR62
726-7271 A89-271 149071 10MAR62
726-7272 A89-272 149072 10MAR62
726-7273 A89-273 149073 10MAR62
726-7274 A89-274 149074 29MAR62
726-7275 A89-275 149075 29MAR62
726-7276 A89-276 149076 19APR62
726-7277 A89-277 149077 28APR62
726-7278 A89-278 149078 19APR62
726-7279 A89-279 149079 24MAY62
726-7280 A89-280 149080 25MAY62
726-7281 A89-281 149081 24MAY62


Notes P2V-7

  • All P2V-7/SP-2H were classified as Mark 4 from the time of delivery.

 

 

P2V-7 Mods

The following table lists modifications to the P2V-7 fleet, where such mods are included on the status cards. If a mod is not listed in this table it does not mean that the mod was not incorporated. As with the P2V-5s, the exact nature of these mods is unknown although Mod 246 appears to have been associated with SARAH (Search And Rescue Automatic Homing) . In the following table, 2AD signifies that the mod was incorporated at No 2 Aircraft Depot at RAAF Richmond, while CAC signifies the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation at Avalon. Where a "Painted" date is shown, this is believed to relate to the change from midnight blue to light grey livery.


P2V-7

MOD 246
2AD

MOD 242
CAC

MOD 321
2AD
REMARKS
& ADDITIONAL MODS
A89-270
-
28SEP64
21OCT64
25JUN68
04AUG68
-
A89-271
-
20APR64
09JUN64
21AUG68
UNK
To 2AD 24AUG67 for Mods 298 & 309
A89-272
-
03APR64
22MAY64
*12JAN68
29FEB68
Painted at 2AD 28JUN65 to 30AUG65
* Prototype for Mod 321
A89-273
08MAY62
20MAY62
27JUL62
AUG62
29JUL68
03SEP68
-
A89-274
*03MAY62
11MAY62
19OCT64
12NOV64
08NOV68
18DEC68
* Fitment of SARAH was temporary
A89-275
*07JUN62
22JUN64
29JUL64
02SEP68
26SEP68
* Unknown Mod at 2AD this day
Painted at 2AD 03MAY65 to 02JUN65
A89-276
-
02MAR64
08APR64
-
Painted at 2AD 31MAY65 to 12JUL65.
Mod 298 & 309 at 2AD 14AUG67 to 13OCT67
A89-277
-
01NOV63
31JAN64
03JUN68
02JUL68
-
A89-278
08MAY62
24MAY62
07SEP64
30SEP64
*26FEB68
09APR68
* Also Mods 310, 309, 301 & 298.
A89-279
*08JUN62
23JUN64
09SEP64
03DEC64
-
* Unknown Mods at 2AD.
Painted at 2AD 03SEP65 to 24SEP65.
A89-280
-
20MAY64
30JUN64
14OCT68
20NOV68
Painted at 2AD 09JUL65 to 02AUG65.
A89-281
-
17AUG64
08SEP64
-
-

P2V-7 Mods Table - Issue 1 - 10DEC02


NEPTUNE
INSTRUCTIONAL AIRFRAMES
INST1
A89-301
INST2
A89-302
INST3
A89-310
INST4
A89-303
INST5
A89-275


Issue Date Remarks
6 01AUG05
Added an explanation of the acronym SARAH thanks to Clive Lynch. SARAH was a small walkie talkie device, fitted with a radio beacon, attached to one's Mae West On entering the water, a soluble plug was dissolved, and actuated the beacon on the International Distress Frequency. The Neptune would home in on the signal, and when one sighted the rescue aircraft, one used the walkie talkie function to speak to the aircraft, which could either drop a Lindholme raft if you were going to be in the water for a while, or home a rescue craft to your position if one was nearby.
5 10DEC02
All Australian Neptunes now have individual pages. Consequently, the content of some of the above tables has been reduced although several new tables have been added. The RAAF serials in the above tables are linked to the relevant page for each aircraft.


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